All these plants were under the financial control of Loewe. I seem to recall an ad in Shotgun News for a VCR tape demonstrating how to build a rifling machine. You are using an out of date browser. Early smokeless powders needed the kinks worked out. From then on, many Gewehr 88 rifles were rechambered to fire the new 1903 pattern 7.9257mm Mauser cartridge becoming Gewehr 88 S rifles. Apparently arsenal staff thought this D or Z marking sufficient at first, as rifle D 771 shows no other markings. Norma factory loads only generate 35,000 psi. Looks pretty neat. The first step was to select a new cartridge. Most all the 88 J-bore Commission rifles were converted to S-bore size and have worked well enuff during and since ww1. Check out the original cartridge box on the 2nd page. But . You have entered an incorrect email address! It has a receiver with a "split bridge" (i.e., the bolt passes through the receiver and locks in front of the rear bridge); a rotating bolt head; and the characteristic Mannlicher-style "packet loading" or "en-bloc" system in which cartridges are loaded into a steel carrier (an en bloc clip) which is inserted into the magazine, where it holds the cartridges in alignment over a spring. It is sometimes described as a Mauser with Mannlicher features, and sometimes the reverse. They are both finely made rifles, and some of the Haenels especially so. In 1886, fifteen years after their defeat by German forces in the Franco-Prussian War, the French Army introduced the new Lebel magazine rifle firing an 8mm high-velocity projectile propelled by the new smokeless powder. ._3bX7W3J0lU78fp7cayvNxx{max-width:208px;text-align:center} Either will do what the 06 will do. I have a few in different configuration. Ends: Thursday, November 3 | 9:49 AM Central. For this reason the Gewehr 88 is also known as the "commission rifle," or "reichsgewehr". The commission rifle saw field service with Germany's colonial expansion, including in China during the Boxer Rebellion (with the Gewehr 88s and the unlicensed Hanyang 88 copies also being used by the opposing Chinese troops),[5] and served as a front line weapon for German troops during World War I until 1915 when the supply of Gewehr 98s increased. During the following 50 years, the rifle and its Hanyang 88 copy were used in the Xinhai Revolution, the Chinese Civil War and the War of Resistance against Japan and proved more than adequate against the Japanese Arisaka Type 38 rifle, though the latter was newer by 30 years. The original cartridge was limited to about 35,000lbs. Lothar walther, Douglas and Shilen make barrels and I'm sure most other reknowned makers do too. I'm a CNC machine operator at a metal shop specializing in precision machining so I'm thinking it may be possible to do it at work??? A good option would be to have your barrel rebored. As shots are fired the clip remains in place until the last round is chambered, at which point it drops through a hole in the bottom of the rifle. In America these figures are usually quoted in foot-pounds on a basis of 2000 pounds to the ton, without making allowance for the fact that the British ton is 2240 pounds. I have a Gew 88 action that I am going to use for a European style sporting rifle conversion. The Karabiner 88 utilized a different bolt handle, which resembled those found on commercial sporting rifles. 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[citation needed] The Turks issued these and updated versions at least as late as the 1930s. from Germany. In his entire life he didnt design not even a single screw but he was a very very smart manager and director of Steyr factory OEWG. The rifle has an odd appearance as the entire 'floating' barrel is encased in a sheet metal tube for protection, but with the tube removed the rifle looks rather modern. Warning. The Gewehr 88 (commonly called the Model 1888 commission rifle) was a late 19th-century German bolt-action rifle, adopted in 1888. A Kar 88 barrel is 19" long, so if it is longer than that, it may have been rebarreled. Any links to barrels I could consider for this project? Later developed German cartridges are much too powerful to be used in this action. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Right now I'm thinking that whatever caliber I keep it in will be based on the x57 case to insure the rifle won't have trouble feeding the rounds. We're currently in the process of updating HideTV and you can access the new system and get more info below! But for a truly skilled shooter the 857 is more than capable of knocking off non dangerous game at 600 yards not that I would take such a shot despite the fact that I have competed in NRA across the course events in their 3 position shooting. There were numerous blow ups with these rifles, serious injuries and deaths were recorded. Amberg GEW88. I have one of these nice rifle. Making the world a better place to live in. China first bought Gewehr 88 rifles for the First Sino-Japanese War in 18941895 and after that started production of the unlicensed Hanyang 88 copy. The rifle was adopted during a period of rapid development in firearms technology, and marked Germany's shift to a smokeless powder. Lots of military rifles were used as hunting rifles in Germany and all over the world from the 30s-70s. I think when you look at the fantastic workmanship and quality of materials used to build the Old fashioned guns including the ubiquitous 98 Mauser sporting rifles you begin to see and understand what garbage is being built today. About 5,500 Gewehr and Karabiner 88s were delivered to the Lithuanian Army in 19191920 (granted by Germany and sold by France and the UK). build what YOU want and shoot with a smile! This one is a handy carbine without the improved magazine, and like the original 1888 Mauser rifle requiring en bloc clips, but in 7x57 Mauser. Note also that the Austrian 8mm Mannlicher-Schoenauer is an entirely different cartridge from either one of the German. Made in 1891 so this is an antique, no FFL/transfer needed. Ahlwardt accused Loewe of being a spy for France, and denounced the rifle as a Judenflinte ("Jews' musket"). It was designed by the German Army's Rifle Testing Commission, and combined elements of Mauser and Mannlicher rifle design. The bolt assembly required 174 operations. Payment Condition Getting a reamer is the hard part. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. The front action screw actually goes into a hole in the very back of the barrel jacket and if I get a new barrel it might not be the right size to fit the end peice of the barrel jacket over. I agree that a 9.3x57 Gew 88 would be a very cool and unique sporter but on the other hand I'm still wondering if it is really worth putting a $200+ barrel on a $30 gun. The European sporters are generally worth as much as a non-modified rifle. If you need to rebarrel it, you can find issue barrels and Rem takeoffs for well under a hundred bucks. BORE IS DARK WITH WORN RIFLING. In the 1902 Sears catalog, the price was $24.50. ._2cHgYGbfV9EZMSThqLt2tx{margin-bottom:16px;border-radius:4px}._3Q7WCNdCi77r0_CKPoDSFY{width:75%;height:24px}._2wgLWvNKnhoJX3DUVT_3F-,._3Q7WCNdCi77r0_CKPoDSFY{background:var(--newCommunityTheme-field);background-size:200%;margin-bottom:16px;border-radius:4px}._2wgLWvNKnhoJX3DUVT_3F-{width:100%;height:46px} Not really sure which Rockwell and method I'd specify. Additionally, both the ejector and the extractor that are attached to the bolt head are prone to falling out if care is not taken during disassembly and reassembly. 1888 Sporter C.G. LOEWES GEWEHR 88 - C53931 7.92x57mm Mauser; 5% blue, fair bore, good stock, 29'' barrel, MODEL 1888 COMMISSION RIFLE. Conversion of ex military rifle to half stocked sporting gun by Hollis & Sons. Some of them were modified to use the stripper clips used with the Gewehr 98 by milling a slot into the left side of the action and adding stripper clip guides on the top of the receiver. Lots of them made to sporter standard by many of the best German smiths. This rifle is in pretty good shape externally, save for a splinter out of the forend on the left side, which I shall have fixed. Hey everyone! That said, it sounds like you are adamant about using the 88 as a basis for a sporter. Collecting Haenel-Mannlichers may never make you any money, but it can lead into exploration of a fascinating byway in the history of the sporting rifle. Steyr M1893 rumanian and netherland mannlichers are just german 1888 with very minor modifications: barrel jacket removed, added rib on the bolt for better smoothness and slightly different ejector. The designer was Louis Schlegelmilch chief gunsmith of Spandau Arsenal who perfected the mauser M1871 bolt adding two locking lugs in front of it. Some idea of the tremendous extent of these manufacturing operations may be gained from the following figures: The rifle barrel required 54 operations to complete. please nourse.brad@gmail.com is my email and/or you can text me at 518902015 pleasse and thank you. Rifles. The gun was said to be taken from a pile of guns to be burned in the middle of a village- so the sporterizing was done pre-war in Germany. 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Sie haben die Wahl", "Bro strzelecka polskiego wojska w wojnie polsko-bolszewickiej", "Karabin i karabinek Mannlicher-Mauser wz.1888", "Firearms of the Irish Civil Wars: Part 2 the Republicans: their Unionist opponents had a much better quantity and variety of arms, but the Republicans put theirs to a lot more use", "M1913 Mannlicher Gew88 Austro Hungarian Rifle", "Brazilian military rifle cartridges part 2: Steyr vs. Mauser and fn wins! I'm planning on building at least one Gew 88 sporter rifle I got from Centerfire and I was just wondering if anyone has done a Gew 88 sporter before. It must definitely be remembered, however, that these rifles were intended for the 7.92mm cartridge in its original form. deepen the grooves to the desired bore diameter. Gewehr 88 rifles have been used widely during post World War I revolutions, uprisings and wars (on both sides of the Russian Civil War, the German Revolution of 191819, the Revolutions and interventions in Hungary (191820), the Greater Poland Uprising (191819), the Silesian Uprisings, the Turkish War of Independence, the PolishSoviet War,[8] by the Ulster Volunteers and by Lithuanians in the Lithuanian Wars of Independence). Certainly enjoy the 1888 sporters like yours. I'll have to thread any new barrel (unless custom made for the Gew88) so that it will fit into the Gew action and since I've never done that before I'm worried I'd mess it up and ruin a new barrel. At the time of adoption, the M/88 "Patrone 7.9 mm" was loaded with a 14.6 g (226 gr) round nose bullet that measured 8.08mm (.318 in) in diameter. . Americans who would not think of using a low number Springfield 1903 with modern ammunition, will unhesitatingly so use this old German type which was built while our Army was still using black powder single shot rifles! Antique. Beautiful. You may have noticed a new age verification message when you entered the site. all it need have is a pilot the diameter of the 8mm lands. I cannot understand how Von Mannlicher name could be associated with the gewehr M1888 since decades. The commission rifle's bolt action design was a commission modified Mauser action. Was the spacer threaded or just a simple collar? Kyle you're fooling with a weapon contrived in black powder era and obselete by WW 1. In response the German Army's Rifle Testing Commission developed the Gewehr 88 which was adopted for service in 1888. If I could find a way to do it cheaply then I'm good to go but if I can't do the conversion to 9.3 myself or find a way to do it cheaply I may just have to stick with 8x57 (which isn't a bad caliber by any means, just not exactly what I want). In 1903, the Germany Army adopted a new service cartridge that fired lighter bullets measuring 8.20mm (.323 in) in diameter. T.P.Hern's Model 88/05 with Unusual Markings : Detailed picture set of Greg Cooke's Erfurt M88. The Gewehr 88 (commonly called the Model 1888 commission rifle) was a late 19th-century German bolt-action rifle, adopted in 1888. Haenel 7mm Commission 88 Sporter. Antique GEW 88 Sporter Rifle. They are converted military rifles, however, not to be confused with the Mannlicher-Schoenauer high grade sporting rifles or the Schilling or Haenel top quality rifles of later design and manufacture. Golf and guns (but cattle pay the bills)
And I'm still waiting for my well to come in, guns (duh, ya think? When Germany replaced the 88 with the Gewehr 98, many of the rifles were given to Austria-Hungary and the Ottoman Empire during World War I because both states had a shortage of rifles (however, it was used extensively by the Turkish Army even through the 1930s and 1940s). It is true that the M. 1888 was originally reported to use a cartridge with a chamber pressure of about 47,040 pounds. Its case is shorter than the Mauser case, and the neck is differently placed. Your supposed to have a clear shot, not shoot through brush. Most had half-octagon barrels with full or partial matted ribs, matted receiver ring, folding leaf sights, schnabel fore-ends and elegant turned-down bolt handles. I'll probably keep one in the original 8x57 but I don't see why you couldn't do something like 30-06. Some early models had flaws due to rushed ammunition production. Model classification and certifiable originality are the backbone of gun collecting, and with Haenel-Mannlichers and other civilian rifles based on the Commission action, this is almost impossible. Given equally designed and mounted rifles and similar ammunition and BORE CONDITION, the 7.92X57 (8mm Mauser) will do about anything the .30-06 can do stocks, barrel length, scopes, ammunition variables all figure into it There are a lot more bullet designs of various weights made for the 06 than are available for the 7.92X57.. European loads are far hotter and harder hitting than the rather anemic round-nose loads made in USA for the 8mm Mauser. and now, have fun! Eventually I intend to scope a nice Steyr Mauser 98 sporting conversion I bought a few years ago, someone did a real nice conversion- probably early post- war German, judging by the style of the stock and metal work. The case coloring is pretty on these old guns. This began by adapting a Swiss design, resulting in the Patrone 88 or M/88 of 1888, an 8mm rimless "necked" cartridge (bullet diameter 8.08mm/.318 in) loaded with an 8.08mm (.318 in) 14.6 g (226 gr) round-nose bullet propelled by a single-base smokeless powder. FINISH SHOWS ONLY TRACES OF BLUING WITH MOSTLY PATINA COVERED BARE METAL. I really like the idea of the 9.3x57. It was the German service rifle from 1898 to 1935, when it was replaced by the Karabiner 98k, a shorter weapon using the same basic design. Rifle is in excellent shape, bore is bright and clean. One was the rifle itself cut down 10.5 inches and with the bolt handle bent down somewhat. Haven't slugged the bore but am sure it will be the .318 J bore. We're also planning on running streams this week for Shot Show so keep an eye out. No reliable gunsmith would ever rebarrel to any of the modern calibers (1891 or later), especially the Turk or Chinese exports, far too much chance of expiediency exceeding safety in the hands of arsenal managment. Still need to get her rebarreled Press J to jump to the feed. The 1888 in all its forms was extensively converted, after being discarded by the German Army, to use as a sporting rifle. Terry Wieland is shooting editor of Grays Sporting Journal and a recognized authority on fine firearms. It's a Gew 88 actioned sporting rifle that we reportedly taken home as a sourvenier by a GI after WWII. It has a custom sporter stock to the muzzle with a monte carlo cheek piece that needs a final sanding and finish. This was really a short rifle. .FIYolDqalszTnjjNfThfT{max-width:256px;white-space:normal;text-align:center} There fine old rifles are almost exclusively a collectors item and not shooters. Description: This is a Turkish Gew 88 rifle chambered in 8mm mauser that was refurbished by the Asfa Ankara arsenal in 1935. 14th December 2020 gewehr 88 sporter. ._3K2ydhts9_ES4s9UpcXqBi{display:block;padding:0 16px;width:100%} Czech Sellier & Bellot makes excellent high-power ammunition hunting ammunition for the S-bore 8mm Mausers, good for deer, bear and elk when fired from the modern K98k rifles.. Of course one can handload for the Mauser to get optimal performance from the 8mm S bore Mauser. @keyframes _1tIZttmhLdrIGrB-6VvZcT{0%{opacity:0}to{opacity:1}}._3uK2I0hi3JFTKnMUFHD2Pd,.HQ2VJViRjokXpRbJzPvvc{--infoTextTooltip-overflow-left:0px;font-size:12px;font-weight:500;line-height:16px;padding:3px 9px;position:absolute;border-radius:4px;margin-top:-6px;background:#000;color:#fff;animation:_1tIZttmhLdrIGrB-6VvZcT .5s step-end;z-index:100;white-space:pre-wrap}._3uK2I0hi3JFTKnMUFHD2Pd:after,.HQ2VJViRjokXpRbJzPvvc:after{content:"";position:absolute;top:100%;left:calc(50% - 4px - var(--infoTextTooltip-overflow-left));width:0;height:0;border-top:3px solid #000;border-left:4px solid transparent;border-right:4px solid transparent}._3uK2I0hi3JFTKnMUFHD2Pd{margin-top:6px}._3uK2I0hi3JFTKnMUFHD2Pd:after{border-bottom:3px solid #000;border-top:none;bottom:100%;top:auto} Haenels civilian rifles on the Commission action followed the German hunting rifle style that existed since the advent of centerfire cartridges. This article appeared in the 2016 Gun Digest annual. In general, yes, a Kar 88 or Gew 88. Sir, how do you like the 9X57's field performance? If you have one thats been sporterised, dont worry, it will shoot just as well as the modern sporters will, all things being equal.. they are not rare. The complete magazine required 141 operations; while the stock required 49. These arent like the military Gewehr 88s where you can get by shooting regular 8x57js. I won't shoot modern or mil-surp ammo in it. JavaScript is disabled. Although I have never been a big fan of the 857 there is absolutely nothing wrong with this cartridge as it is right up their with the ubiquitous 30-06. I'm including the 88 in there even though it is not technically a Mauser. Should I go for it? ._12xlue8dQ1odPw1J81FIGQ{display:inline-block;vertical-align:middle} Examples of these usually show first-class workmanship and special features such as folding sights and altered bolt handles. Gew 88's were re-serialized by the army capturing them in some rare cases (i.e. "I think that crap about bigger bullets not deflectig as much is hooey! The barrel flats bear the signature "von G . It was a superior replacement using the same ammunition with a stronger powder charge. Kyle, Send me your name & address so I can take out some insurance on you. But such was not the case. Barrel was marked V. Chr. They may be fine, but what if they're not? He is also a columnist for Rifle, Handloader, and Safari Times. [15] These were likely intended for sale in South America, where use of the 757mm cartridge was widespread. I drink a bit! Also with a new barrel I may have a little trouble with the barrel jacket issue. He is a regular contributor to the annual Gun Digest and has won the Gun Digest John T. Amber Literary Award. [2] The rifle was one of many weapons in the arms race between the Germanic states and France, and with Europe in general. From 1905 the rifles were also converted to use the Gewehr 98 type stripper clip by adding stripper clip guides to the top rear of the receiver and altering the magazine becoming Gewehr 88/05 rifles. The barrel shroud was not only possessed . By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Small quantity made just after WW1 for commercial consumption until 1921 when Danzig factory was disma .Click for more info Seller: David Condon, Inc. Area Code: 540 Modern European 7.92X57 S-bore ammo is kick-butt stuff, as was the German Army military ammunition. Among these developments was the famous round that the Germans introduced in the Gewehr 88: the famous "Patronen 7.92x57mm" that today we call the "8mm Mauser." . The practical result was that the French rifle had greater accuracy and range, and needed cleaning much less often, giving French troops a tactical advantage over the German Army. It's waiting to be finished and D&Ted. 7.9257mm Mauser adapted rifles have the receiver marked with a large "S" rollmark. As a result, the lugs are further back than in genuine Mauser designs. 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And I'm still waiting for my well to come in, guns (duh, ya think? When Germany replaced the 88 with the Gewehr 98, many of the rifles were given to Austria-Hungary and the Ottoman Empire during World War I because both states had a shortage of rifles (however, it was used extensively by the Turkish Army even through the 1930s and 1940s). It is true that the M. 1888 was originally reported to use a cartridge with a chamber pressure of about 47,040 pounds. Its case is shorter than the Mauser case, and the neck is differently placed. Your supposed to have a clear shot, not shoot through brush. Most had half-octagon barrels with full or partial matted ribs, matted receiver ring, folding leaf sights, schnabel fore-ends and elegant turned-down bolt handles. I'll probably keep one in the original 8x57 but I don't see why you couldn't do something like 30-06. Some early models had flaws due to rushed ammunition production. Model classification and certifiable originality are the backbone of gun collecting, and with Haenel-Mannlichers and other civilian rifles based on the Commission action, this is almost impossible. Given equally designed and mounted rifles and similar ammunition and BORE CONDITION, the 7.92X57 (8mm Mauser) will do about anything the .30-06 can do stocks, barrel length, scopes, ammunition variables all figure into it There are a lot more bullet designs of various weights made for the 06 than are available for the 7.92X57.. European loads are far hotter and harder hitting than the rather anemic round-nose loads made in USA for the 8mm Mauser. and now, have fun! Eventually I intend to scope a nice Steyr Mauser 98 sporting conversion I bought a few years ago, someone did a real nice conversion- probably early post- war German, judging by the style of the stock and metal work. The case coloring is pretty on these old guns. This began by adapting a Swiss design, resulting in the Patrone 88 or M/88 of 1888, an 8mm rimless "necked" cartridge (bullet diameter 8.08mm/.318 in) loaded with an 8.08mm (.318 in) 14.6 g (226 gr) round-nose bullet propelled by a single-base smokeless powder. FINISH SHOWS ONLY TRACES OF BLUING WITH MOSTLY PATINA COVERED BARE METAL. I really like the idea of the 9.3x57. It was the German service rifle from 1898 to 1935, when it was replaced by the Karabiner 98k, a shorter weapon using the same basic design. Rifle is in excellent shape, bore is bright and clean. One was the rifle itself cut down 10.5 inches and with the bolt handle bent down somewhat. Haven't slugged the bore but am sure it will be the .318 J bore. We're also planning on running streams this week for Shot Show so keep an eye out. No reliable gunsmith would ever rebarrel to any of the modern calibers (1891 or later), especially the Turk or Chinese exports, far too much chance of expiediency exceeding safety in the hands of arsenal managment. Still need to get her rebarreled Press J to jump to the feed. The 1888 in all its forms was extensively converted, after being discarded by the German Army, to use as a sporting rifle. Terry Wieland is shooting editor of Grays Sporting Journal and a recognized authority on fine firearms. It's a Gew 88 actioned sporting rifle that we reportedly taken home as a sourvenier by a GI after WWII. It has a custom sporter stock to the muzzle with a monte carlo cheek piece that needs a final sanding and finish. This was really a short rifle. .FIYolDqalszTnjjNfThfT{max-width:256px;white-space:normal;text-align:center} There fine old rifles are almost exclusively a collectors item and not shooters. Description: This is a Turkish Gew 88 rifle chambered in 8mm mauser that was refurbished by the Asfa Ankara arsenal in 1935. 14th December 2020 gewehr 88 sporter. ._3K2ydhts9_ES4s9UpcXqBi{display:block;padding:0 16px;width:100%} Czech Sellier & Bellot makes excellent high-power ammunition hunting ammunition for the S-bore 8mm Mausers, good for deer, bear and elk when fired from the modern K98k rifles.. Of course one can handload for the Mauser to get optimal performance from the 8mm S bore Mauser. @keyframes _1tIZttmhLdrIGrB-6VvZcT{0%{opacity:0}to{opacity:1}}._3uK2I0hi3JFTKnMUFHD2Pd,.HQ2VJViRjokXpRbJzPvvc{--infoTextTooltip-overflow-left:0px;font-size:12px;font-weight:500;line-height:16px;padding:3px 9px;position:absolute;border-radius:4px;margin-top:-6px;background:#000;color:#fff;animation:_1tIZttmhLdrIGrB-6VvZcT .5s step-end;z-index:100;white-space:pre-wrap}._3uK2I0hi3JFTKnMUFHD2Pd:after,.HQ2VJViRjokXpRbJzPvvc:after{content:"";position:absolute;top:100%;left:calc(50% - 4px - var(--infoTextTooltip-overflow-left));width:0;height:0;border-top:3px solid #000;border-left:4px solid transparent;border-right:4px solid transparent}._3uK2I0hi3JFTKnMUFHD2Pd{margin-top:6px}._3uK2I0hi3JFTKnMUFHD2Pd:after{border-bottom:3px solid #000;border-top:none;bottom:100%;top:auto} Haenels civilian rifles on the Commission action followed the German hunting rifle style that existed since the advent of centerfire cartridges. This article appeared in the 2016 Gun Digest annual. In general, yes, a Kar 88 or Gew 88. Sir, how do you like the 9X57's field performance? If you have one thats been sporterised, dont worry, it will shoot just as well as the modern sporters will, all things being equal.. they are not rare. The complete magazine required 141 operations; while the stock required 49. These arent like the military Gewehr 88s where you can get by shooting regular 8x57js. I won't shoot modern or mil-surp ammo in it. JavaScript is disabled. Although I have never been a big fan of the 857 there is absolutely nothing wrong with this cartridge as it is right up their with the ubiquitous 30-06. I'm including the 88 in there even though it is not technically a Mauser. Should I go for it? ._12xlue8dQ1odPw1J81FIGQ{display:inline-block;vertical-align:middle} Examples of these usually show first-class workmanship and special features such as folding sights and altered bolt handles. Gew 88's were re-serialized by the army capturing them in some rare cases (i.e. "I think that crap about bigger bullets not deflectig as much is hooey! The barrel flats bear the signature "von G . It was a superior replacement using the same ammunition with a stronger powder charge. Kyle, Send me your name & address so I can take out some insurance on you. But such was not the case. Barrel was marked V. Chr. They may be fine, but what if they're not? He is also a columnist for Rifle, Handloader, and Safari Times. [15] These were likely intended for sale in South America, where use of the 757mm cartridge was widespread. I drink a bit! Also with a new barrel I may have a little trouble with the barrel jacket issue. He is a regular contributor to the annual Gun Digest and has won the Gun Digest John T. Amber Literary Award. [2] The rifle was one of many weapons in the arms race between the Germanic states and France, and with Europe in general. From 1905 the rifles were also converted to use the Gewehr 98 type stripper clip by adding stripper clip guides to the top rear of the receiver and altering the magazine becoming Gewehr 88/05 rifles. The barrel shroud was not only possessed . By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Small quantity made just after WW1 for commercial consumption until 1921 when Danzig factory was disma .Click for more info Seller: David Condon, Inc. Area Code: 540 Modern European 7.92X57 S-bore ammo is kick-butt stuff, as was the German Army military ammunition. Among these developments was the famous round that the Germans introduced in the Gewehr 88: the famous "Patronen 7.92x57mm" that today we call the "8mm Mauser." . The practical result was that the French rifle had greater accuracy and range, and needed cleaning much less often, giving French troops a tactical advantage over the German Army. It's waiting to be finished and D&Ted. 7.9257mm Mauser adapted rifles have the receiver marked with a large "S" rollmark. As a result, the lugs are further back than in genuine Mauser designs. 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